Wackos Tell Tally: Fla Should Secede Union
BY BUDDY NEVINS
The League of the South is telling Florida’s Legislature the state should secede from the union.
For those of you who aren’t familiar with the League of the South, they are the opposite of the Mensa society. These are folks who believe that society should be run by an “Anglo-Celtic” (read: white) elite that would establish a Christian theocratic state. Blacks, Jews, Hispanics and anyone not “Anglo-Celtic,” whatever that is, need not apply.
League of the South believer
This group of wackos and haters have erected billboards all over the South calling for states to Secede. They just bought the following billboard space in Tallahassee to influence the upcoming session of the Florida Legislaure:
Here is how they explain the message:
“If the South is going to survive, especially against a flood tide of massive Third World immigration and leftist attempts to destroy her very cultural and political foundations, she is going to have to seek her independence and govern herself.
And political secession–leaving Washington, DC and its anti-Southern ideology behind–is the legitimate means of doing this. Secession is really the fundamental American political ideal. It is also a means of promoting the survival, well being, and independence of the Southern people. We in The League believe that we must secede to survive!”
They ask Floridians to call the state Senate or House and “voice your support for our billboard and our ideas.”
The League also plans a “public demonstration” against U. S. Sen. Marco Rubio in Tallahassee on March 8. They are angry that Rubio sponsored an immigration bill.
February 21st, 2014 at 5:13 pm
You know when normal people went to go to governor crusts book signing at Barnes n noble the Republican party and the tea party demonstrators are so insane that they had to separate them with the tea party on the south sidewalk n the official Republicans on the north sidewalk! Even middle aged conservatives innocently caught at the store couldn’t find out what exactly was the issue between the camps that made them divide. The right looks more insane every day
February 21st, 2014 at 7:31 pm
Wasn’t this tried once before? The date January 10, 1861 comes to mind. The Confederate States and Florida lost. Governor John Milton committed suicide on April 1, 1865. Tallahassee fell to the Union in May.
February 22nd, 2014 at 10:58 am
Can South Florida secede from the rest of Florida?
We’ve been subsidizing them long enough.
February 22nd, 2014 at 11:02 am
many years ago an arch-segregationist suggested to Earl Long, then governor of Louisiana, that the state should secede.
Long replied,”it ain’t gonna work this time either, the Feds have the A-bomb.”
February 22nd, 2014 at 8:56 pm
It is already happening with Holder’s racist DOJ CRD (not) and his love affairs with the New Black Panther Party and with Chairman Obama’s affiliation with terrorists. But that is OK because it is not a white hate group. Stop slobbering. I hope all hate groups implode. Stop with the hypocritical one way BS.
February 23rd, 2014 at 9:00 am
I’ll tell you who should secede from our State is these “slum-lords and their lawyers(see my “citizens Presentaton” on Tuesday March 4 @ Ft.Lau City Hall). You all know by now my landlord has retained former city comm.(from the nineties-don’t get to exicted)Att.John Aurelious-should be John Delerious. Oh John here is batting a thou. States to me I’m crazy, if his client did his due dileigence I would not even be occupying his unit(get what Santa-I’m in there). Serve’s me on Valentine’s day-to deliberately embarrass me if front of my customers(nice try they hate your clients guts). Name calling(Oh I give it right back don’t I). I have a lease , which his client signed. It states Jun121013-to Jun12016). Demands to see it. To bad, his client should have his copy. What he lost it, ate it, what? The lease will “trump” in court. I even showed John here the lease while he was on the property. Still not good enough -to bad. Then tells me the Pompano beach Mayor Fisher , that he hates me, and is going to throw me out of here-(really bozo). Put the lease on a “hard drive”(I feel like James Bond). They want to go to court -fine. I feel better now. What is the landlord going to say its not his signature, and lie to the judge. I will recommend thirty days in jail. Remember Mr.Aurelious state to your client judges hate when they are lied to.. I am going nowhere Jun 1. This is nothing more than harassment ,bitter resentment because my customers complained and the landlord was cited. So blame Robert and attempt to throw him out(no way)…….
February 23rd, 2014 at 1:26 pm
Walsh;
Speaking for nearly all of us here on the Interwebs, we don’t give a flying fuck about your problems in life.
Did your little old ladies clients tell you to STFU, so you’ve taken to spamming Buddy’s site?
February 23rd, 2014 at 1:44 pm
Robert, Where’s your friend stern to help you out on this one. Did she leave you high and dry too?
February 23rd, 2014 at 7:48 pm
“Wackos and Haters”, did a fifth grader write this article? A Union achieves by force is not what Jefferson envisioned as he wrote the Declaration. Though this is what Dishonest Abraham Lincoln and the current American Empire believe in.
February 24th, 2014 at 1:29 pm
Have they really thought it through? Only an idiot would advocate secession. But it sure would be nice if Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach County could be # 51.
February 24th, 2014 at 7:50 pm
First of all Chaz Stevens you are a drunk and a pig. Your sewer rat mouth is typical. Your neighbors hate your guts and wish you would move(their words ,not mine.) And listen to #8″Ft.Lau resident” my God some of you esp. you there #8 what does Judy Stern have to do w/ my landlord hiring an attorney to evict me. Mrs/Stern has nothing to do w/ this. She also know that this is an easy one. Why would I bother her? Don’t kid yourself if I needed her help I would contact her. Again the landlord was cited. He is pissed. He is attempting to evict me prematurely due to the fact my customers think basicly he is a slum-lord and are sick of the condition of his bldg. I have been there since June of last year. Every check ,every month has the terms of the lease on the checks. So all of a sudden after he has a Magistrate hearing on Feb12 in Pompano here, where he is being fined 20o.oo dollars per violation(800.00). Where was he @ his hearing, blew it off. Gets notification of this , hires an attorney to try to evict me on Jun1 2014, when he knows damn well its a three year lease. Now I am getting from people why don’t you just show him the lease. Wait, wait I did. I showed it to his daughter-inlaw last week(not good enough). I showed it to his attorney last Tuesday in person, when he was on the property(not good enough-to bad). I also have a witness who was in the shop last Jun 1 and he will be more than happy to testify on my behalf. Pay this attorney all you want ($). Send eviction in JUn. I will simply go before the judge and show them the lease. When the judge states why didn’t you show his attorney my reply , will be I did. Spend all the money he wants. The lease will prevail in court. The attorney tells me that his client misplaced the lease. Not my problem. I have the landlords signature on the lease. What I don’t understand is money bags here(landlord) has money for an attorney, has money to send an electrician to the shop(outside) to unscrew two flood lights, but doesn’t have the money to fix his infractions. Then I had to call the police on him three times , last one for trying to mace me(people I know a thing or two about mace-) which the police confisicated from him. He was also told to stay away from my shop, or he would be arrested. I have no problem going to court. Harrass me all he wants. The judge will see the lease, which it clearly states the terms. I will put the landlord on the stand, and if he lies I will petion the judge to throw him in jail. Get it…..
February 24th, 2014 at 9:35 pm
Walsh;
Do you even know where I live? Hint: it’s in N. Palm Beach County you twit.
February 26th, 2014 at 8:02 pm
#12 “The Heathen”. I know where you live. You have filed numerous complaints against people that I like w/ the State Att. office. I have several friends that work down there. I have copies of every complaint you have filled out down there. Hint: they hate your guts also. Got to go-I have to drink my “mouse martini”. The viewers know I can sustain everything I comment(blog)about…That is why I am so effective. I don’t like you….
February 27th, 2014 at 8:04 am
Buddy,
I do not support Florida secession from the United States. There is no basis for that which I can see, as measured by Jefferson’s own yard stick — that life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness are being denied Floridians by the federal government.
However, increasingly I do believe that South Florida grows closer to meeting that requirement with respect to remaining part of the State of Florida. It is a subject that is worthy of official study.
South Florida’s secession from the rest of Florida is worthy of study if the people, by ballot, ask for such a study. The question should be put to them.
The people of Northern and Southern Florida remain friendly but in the main have grown to believe different things. It is increasingly a forced union of friendly people who want very different futures, live very different lifestyles, appear to believe in very different values, and do not share the same political views.
The two confront very basic and apparently irreconcilable philosophical and political differences. It is a form of tyranny to insist that any people remain part of a union so alien to them in philosophy and practice.
It is for the purpose of maintaining peace among others in a diverse thinking state that moderation and compromise form the basis of governing and statesmanship. Yet those attributes do not exist in today’s my way or the highway form of government. Oppression is the result.
Should South Florida actually seek secession from North Florida? I cannot make that recommendation at this time, it requires study. I hope not but it might make sense.
Do we owe it to ourselves to begin such a study? I think we do.
Could anything bad come from such a study? No. Movement of a free people to seek out better futures is what America is all about. It is the highest form of patriotism. Governments should work for us, not the other way around.
Frankly, there isn’t a good argument for not studying whether we’d be better off on our own. Nothing is lost by studying it, and much could be gained through the exercise, but I would oppose even the effort unless at least 50% of South Floridians at a general election endorsed the study.
This must be an effort that begins with the people up. Or not at all.
Would I vote for such a study?
Without hesitation. Yes.
Angelo
FROM BUDDY:
I believe Congress makes the decision about state boundaries.
Angelo, some folks are too quick to separate North Florida from South Florida based on political views. Where would the line be drawn? Alachua and Leon Counties have consistently voted for Democratic candidates, including Obama.
February 27th, 2014 at 12:18 pm
The line would be drawn at Orange County and the Capital of # 51 would be Miami or Orlando.
February 27th, 2014 at 3:45 pm
To some extent the line is already being drawn: “slot machine gaming at pari-mutuel facilities is authorized in Broward and Miami-Dade Counties” but not elsewhere in Florida.
This could become an interesting trend:
“Regulated brothels are authorized in Broward and Miami-Dade Counties.”
(as is currently the case in Nevada)
“Recreational marijuana sales are authorized in Broward and Miami-Dade Counties.”
(as is currently the case in Colorado)
Make it so, Tallahassee!
February 28th, 2014 at 5:45 pm
Buddy,
Where to draw the line is a premature question. Lines draw themselves based on the interest of citizens.
More important is the discussion about why a separation makes sense. Interest in that discussion. The identification of options. The particulars of the analysis. Letting the thing evolve naturally which means it either gains or loses momentum.
That is the important aspect of such an undertaking. The rest falls into place naturally.
Citizens should not feel that their every need is met, that is not reasonable. There must be tolerance for good days and bad. Nor should they ever feel imprisoned in a system that does not serve them.
Government is there to serve us, not the other way around.
It would be quintessentially contrary to Jefferson to suggest otherwise. Any community should be tolerant enough to take a few knocks, even a bunch of them. But years and years of being denied what we feel we need to live as we wish in our own back yards? No sir. That’s beyond what any citizenry should be asked to endure.
To offer an example, as you may know, I’m a former Staten Islander. Back in the 1990’s, after years of their needs being ignored, a referendum passed to study the feasibility of de-annexation from the City of New York. The study focused on either forming a new city or or annexing into New Jersey.
The issue arose for similar reasons that many South Floridians experience today.
It wasn’t just that Staten Islanders felt that their needs were not being met. They felt their needs were being ignored, that their needs had become unimportant, that the needs of others took precedence over theirs. Increasingly they felt estranged from the rest of the city. Marginalized. Trapped in a relationship that no longer worked.
The vote did more than just register some meaningless filing for divorce. It was an indictment on the unfairness of the way that community was being treated.
After a while, as the movement began generating more and more support, the predictable occurred.
The City started paying greater attention to the ignored needs of those residents. Roads were fixed. Contaminated landfills were cleaned up. Schools were repaired.
Without the bold action of that community, the results would never have taken place. It was not an accident. Respect is sometimes given and that’s a nice thing, but sometimes it has to be imposed.
Theirs was not an effort that arose because the Island wanted to leave. It arose because conditions forced that choice to occur, it arose the relationship was so strained and unresponsive that it become intolerable.
The feeling among residents was we’re not taking this anymore. And what they did was uniquely American and patriotic. In America, when we show tolerance and plenty of it. But when conditions are such that we can no longer take it, when we feel like government doesn’t serve us well, we act. It’s all right there in the Declaration of Independence. Jefferson said it best. Read his document, it is a true masterpiece.
I agree with you that separations should never be about partisan politics. Rather such actions should only be considered having reached a sober and objective conclusion that a step that bold is necessary to ensure our right to live as we require is taken seriously. To make it plain to government that we deeply disapprove with the manner in which they are representing us.
If the voters approve taking the step to study alternatives, the approach should simply be to objectively determine why, how and whether we would be better off in some other arrangement.
South Florida sends much more tax dollars to the state than is returned to our area.
We have business needs and interests that have long been denied by our State which affect our ability to employ our residents and do business as we need it done.
We have limitations imposed by statutes and constitutional amendments that are profoundly at odds with how we wish to live our lives. Increasingly, the needs and legitimate wishes of our region have been pushed aside and ignored. Strange laws are being imposed upon us. No American should feel that way.
You know things are bad simply by looking at how many flights we have from Fort Lauderdale to Tallahassee each day. Used to be there were multiple flights daily. Not so today. Why? What’s the point of going there? They don’t care about us.
When that feeling exists, when it exists for years as it has, when it grows as it continues to grow, communities face two options.
They can suffer and bear it. Or they can do something about it.
I believe in solving problems. I believe the power of democracy itself can fix anything that’s wrong with democracy. What I suggest DOES something bold and serious to make our State stop taking us for granted.
Now, I respect that some may not have the courage to take that step. Going back to our Revolution, the very same argument was debated. Some were motivated by fear and others by a better future. At the end of the day, you’re either for freedom and responsive government or you’re about suffering silently.
Staten Island acted. After years of suffering they finally got fed up with the way they were treated. A breaking point came for them. They simply refused to suffer silently any longer.
Today, they are much better off for having made their City respect them. They regained their respect because they refused to live without it any longer.
There’s something to be learned from that experience.
If you have a problem and want to solve it, you first have to ascribe seriousness to the problem. And to finding a solution. You must then implement that fix with relentless resolve. Do that and problems get fixed. Do it not and you’re the problem.
Peace,
Angelo