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		<title>By: look at the facts</title>
		<link>http://www.browardbeat.com/sources-county-commissioners-trying-to-block-ethics-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-28312</link>
		<dc:creator>look at the facts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geller is scum. Why put him in there? What does he have to offer? As far as the Ethics Commission, They were hand picked by the Commission to do their bidding. Sh!t, just look at that Chair...The most unethical Commissioner in a municipality, and a RINO...Just look at his voting record. He never seems to do the right thing for The People...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geller is scum. Why put him in there? What does he have to offer? As far as the Ethics Commission, They were hand picked by the Commission to do their bidding. Sh!t, just look at that Chair&#8230;The most unethical Commissioner in a municipality, and a RINO&#8230;Just look at his voting record. He never seems to do the right thing for The People&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ha Ha ... Not</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ha Ha ... Not</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David/Steve (and all the other names you post under):   Your &quot;GONESburger&quot; joke was cute the first maybe 734 times you used it.  If this is the best Geller has got, a bit of third-rate humor repeated ad nauseum, Gunzburger has got nothing to worry about.  

And, while we&#039;re at it, why don&#039;t we get to the real lesson of the Scott Rothstein/RRA ponzi scheme scandal.  Rothstein donated maybe $7,500 to Gunzburger ...... and it apparently had zero effect on her votes on the commission.  So, pissed off at Gunzburger for actually being un-buyable, he dumps $50,000 into Steve Geller&#039;s campaign knowing this is a guy who once you buy, he stays bought for you.  In fact, Geller got the tainted ponzi money, dropped to his knees and puckered up, and loudly declared Rothstein to be his &quot;Jewish Avenger&quot; superhero.  Add to that Geller&#039;s close ties to other ponzi pal Joel Steigner/Mutual Benefits, and Geller&#039;s endorsements from Joe Eggelletion and Bev Gallagher, and you know what you&#039;re getting if you Geller is elected: one big fat scandal in the making.   Just you wait!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David/Steve (and all the other names you post under):   Your &#8220;GONESburger&#8221; joke was cute the first maybe 734 times you used it.  If this is the best Geller has got, a bit of third-rate humor repeated ad nauseum, Gunzburger has got nothing to worry about.  </p>
<p>And, while we&#8217;re at it, why don&#8217;t we get to the real lesson of the Scott Rothstein/RRA ponzi scheme scandal.  Rothstein donated maybe $7,500 to Gunzburger &#8230;&#8230; and it apparently had zero effect on her votes on the commission.  So, pissed off at Gunzburger for actually being un-buyable, he dumps $50,000 into Steve Geller&#8217;s campaign knowing this is a guy who once you buy, he stays bought for you.  In fact, Geller got the tainted ponzi money, dropped to his knees and puckered up, and loudly declared Rothstein to be his &#8220;Jewish Avenger&#8221; superhero.  Add to that Geller&#8217;s close ties to other ponzi pal Joel Steigner/Mutual Benefits, and Geller&#8217;s endorsements from Joe Eggelletion and Bev Gallagher, and you know what you&#8217;re getting if you Geller is elected: one big fat scandal in the making.   Just you wait!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tommy the Fry Cook</title>
		<link>http://www.browardbeat.com/sources-county-commissioners-trying-to-block-ethics-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-28241</link>
		<dc:creator>Tommy the Fry Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOPapa (aka Ron GONESburger?) is being ridiculous to cast his mother as one of two &quot;angels&quot; on the county commission.

If my job and income was dependent upon political favors to my mom, I&#039;d consider it a &quot;step backward&quot; to have her replaced by Steve Geller as well.  If it wasn&#039;t for political cronyism, NONE of the GONESburger children would have jobs, but there they are (or in sis&#039;s case &quot;were&quot;), feeding off the taxpayers and then you have the nerve to accuse the other commissioners of being &quot;influence peddlers&quot;???  Sue&#039;s been the most blatent influence peddler of them all!  At least the others go through a pretense but Sue just says &quot;Hire my son...pay my daughter a salary while she calls in sick and parties on the beach...give a gazillion dollar plastics contract to my husband...&quot;  

That&#039;s like dropping a big stinky duece on our kitchen table, then rubbing our faces in it to boot!

If the GONESburger family doesn&#039;t fail GOPapa&#039;s &quot;sniff test&quot;, it&#039;s only because they walk around with their noses stuck so high in the hair.  Sue has NOTHING in common with average people and never will.

I welcome a tight ethical scrutiny in that commission race because she&#039;ll be the one being exposed as a fraud.  Then she and the kids can go find REAL jobs, but out in the private sector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOPapa (aka Ron GONESburger?) is being ridiculous to cast his mother as one of two &#8220;angels&#8221; on the county commission.</p>
<p>If my job and income was dependent upon political favors to my mom, I&#8217;d consider it a &#8220;step backward&#8221; to have her replaced by Steve Geller as well.  If it wasn&#8217;t for political cronyism, NONE of the GONESburger children would have jobs, but there they are (or in sis&#8217;s case &#8220;were&#8221;), feeding off the taxpayers and then you have the nerve to accuse the other commissioners of being &#8220;influence peddlers&#8221;???  Sue&#8217;s been the most blatent influence peddler of them all!  At least the others go through a pretense but Sue just says &#8220;Hire my son&#8230;pay my daughter a salary while she calls in sick and parties on the beach&#8230;give a gazillion dollar plastics contract to my husband&#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s like dropping a big stinky duece on our kitchen table, then rubbing our faces in it to boot!</p>
<p>If the GONESburger family doesn&#8217;t fail GOPapa&#8217;s &#8220;sniff test&#8221;, it&#8217;s only because they walk around with their noses stuck so high in the hair.  Sue has NOTHING in common with average people and never will.</p>
<p>I welcome a tight ethical scrutiny in that commission race because she&#8217;ll be the one being exposed as a fraud.  Then she and the kids can go find REAL jobs, but out in the private sector.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Cowan Taught Me</title>
		<link>http://www.browardbeat.com/sources-county-commissioners-trying-to-block-ethics-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-28226</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Cowan Taught Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everybody knew that Cowan worked for a certain law firm and that we had to throw that law firm business to get Cowan&#039;s vote. Ilene Lieberman plays the same games. Will she be allowed to vote on issues affecting Sunrise with these new laws, since she got her husband a job as Sunrise city attorney?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody knew that Cowan worked for a certain law firm and that we had to throw that law firm business to get Cowan&#8217;s vote. Ilene Lieberman plays the same games. Will she be allowed to vote on issues affecting Sunrise with these new laws, since she got her husband a job as Sunrise city attorney?</p>
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		<title>By: Out With the Old!</title>
		<link>http://www.browardbeat.com/sources-county-commissioners-trying-to-block-ethics-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-28224</link>
		<dc:creator>Out With the Old!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times have we seen Sue Gonesburger speak to a lobbyist (or her son) right before a vote?  It seems like every time!  Get rid of the lobbyist puppet named Sue!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times have we seen Sue Gonesburger speak to a lobbyist (or her son) right before a vote?  It seems like every time!  Get rid of the lobbyist puppet named Sue!</p>
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		<title>By: Karnack and Scorekeeper</title>
		<link>http://www.browardbeat.com/sources-county-commissioners-trying-to-block-ethics-rules/comment-page-1/#comment-28219</link>
		<dc:creator>Karnack and Scorekeeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The methods have been well documented between the lobbyists and the electeds. The relationship between the electeds and staff has also been revealed. Time and time again it has been exposed that the &quot;Machine&quot; is the driving force behind the whole &quot;loose&quot; and &quot;sloppy&quot; mess. The electeds job is to ensure that words like &quot;loose&quot; and &quot;sloppy&quot; are part of the county&#039;s political lexicon to keep words like &quot;criminality&quot; and &quot;intent&quot; out of such discussions. That is where the incestuous relationship between the legislative and judicial branches of government are simply too close for comfort. Nothing is broken while the taxes are transformed into ill-gotten gains and harvested by the &quot;takers.&quot;

Kristin Jacobs has the courage to state the truth and to her I applaud such guts. Surely she is and will continue to be deemed a pariah. Good for you Kristin, you are far from a pariah in my book. I believe you are one of the only electeds on that board with a pure mission. Keep up the good work and shine light in the darkest corners of the commission.

Now that the methods and the language have been decoded, the only thing left for the &quot;Machine&quot; is angst and arrogance. Now they will use both on a scale unseen to date to attempt to re-disguise the status quo with some very heavily wordsmithed policy rewrites, but missing the all-important teeth of enforcement. And that will suit the local judicial just fine. They like &quot;loose&quot; and &quot;sloppy&quot; business practices because it keeps them from pursuing &quot;criminality.&quot;

I truly hope that, in the words of Jesus Jones, &quot;right here, right now...watching the world wake up from history.&quot;

There are two choices right here, right now...people re-establish an interest and control of the government we freely choose or watch Rome burn again. The moon already knows how this will end, it has seen this repeatedly. Will we respect or ignore history. Yes, it is that deep and wide for us to consider.

I believe those pillaging the system for their own gain are committing treason. They are contributing to the downfall of a great social experiment that has survived far longer than its earliest critics. Now we have to prove those critics wrong. Are we up to the task???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The methods have been well documented between the lobbyists and the electeds. The relationship between the electeds and staff has also been revealed. Time and time again it has been exposed that the &#8220;Machine&#8221; is the driving force behind the whole &#8220;loose&#8221; and &#8220;sloppy&#8221; mess. The electeds job is to ensure that words like &#8220;loose&#8221; and &#8220;sloppy&#8221; are part of the county&#8217;s political lexicon to keep words like &#8220;criminality&#8221; and &#8220;intent&#8221; out of such discussions. That is where the incestuous relationship between the legislative and judicial branches of government are simply too close for comfort. Nothing is broken while the taxes are transformed into ill-gotten gains and harvested by the &#8220;takers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Kristin Jacobs has the courage to state the truth and to her I applaud such guts. Surely she is and will continue to be deemed a pariah. Good for you Kristin, you are far from a pariah in my book. I believe you are one of the only electeds on that board with a pure mission. Keep up the good work and shine light in the darkest corners of the commission.</p>
<p>Now that the methods and the language have been decoded, the only thing left for the &#8220;Machine&#8221; is angst and arrogance. Now they will use both on a scale unseen to date to attempt to re-disguise the status quo with some very heavily wordsmithed policy rewrites, but missing the all-important teeth of enforcement. And that will suit the local judicial just fine. They like &#8220;loose&#8221; and &#8220;sloppy&#8221; business practices because it keeps them from pursuing &#8220;criminality.&#8221;</p>
<p>I truly hope that, in the words of Jesus Jones, &#8220;right here, right now&#8230;watching the world wake up from history.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are two choices right here, right now&#8230;people re-establish an interest and control of the government we freely choose or watch Rome burn again. The moon already knows how this will end, it has seen this repeatedly. Will we respect or ignore history. Yes, it is that deep and wide for us to consider.</p>
<p>I believe those pillaging the system for their own gain are committing treason. They are contributing to the downfall of a great social experiment that has survived far longer than its earliest critics. Now we have to prove those critics wrong. Are we up to the task???</p>
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		<title>By: Term Limits</title>
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		<dc:creator>Term Limits</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Term limits were adopted for Broward County commissioners by the voters in 2002.  Three terms of four years each, that&#039;s twelve years.  It didn&#039;t matter how many years any existing commissioner had previsouly served.  It was written from then forward no more than three consecutive terms.  

So Sue has one four year term left that starts in November 2010 and expires in 2014. But because of staggering of terms, some commissioners ended up getting two more years I believe.  None got less than 12 total years.  

There&#039;s now reason to believe that term limits, as established in the Broward charter, may be unconstitutional.  Legal challenges elsewhere in the state have been successful and it&#039;s only a matter of time before it gets challenged in Broward.  Several government lawyers I&#039;ve spoken to agree.  All that has to happen is for one plaintiff with standing to come forward and file a case and the Broward County term limits go away.

Tallahassee is very much aware of this fact and, as a counter measure, a bill is now floating around in Tallahassee, interestingly enough, that would expand term limits for State Legislators (chutzpah) and establish term limits on all local officials (double chutzpah).  

This bill is a shameless partisan attempt by the majority party to stay in power no matter if voter mood statewide is shifting to the left.  

Make no mistake.  They might as well call it the &quot;Keep Republicans in Office&quot; bill.  

When it suited Republican interests, they were the darlings of term limits.  Now that it works against them, they want to undo term limits for themselves while imposing it on others whether those voters want local term limits or not.  It is shameless.

That bill, and any attempt like it, should sink back to the bottom of the pit from which it came.  If local officials are to be given term limits, that&#039;s a matter for local voters to decide, not some partisan statutory political maneuver.  

Broward, of all places statewise, was able to put term limits on the ballot eight years ago for county officials.  That proves that no Florida locality needs a patronizing state telling them by statute how to handle local affairs.  What the hell ever become of local home rule in the constitution?

The State of Florida has become one of the worst run states in America under the leadership of this group.  Instead of constantly trying to mess with cities and counties, they should do their own job and pay attention to statewide issues.  That should keep them plenty busy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Term limits were adopted for Broward County commissioners by the voters in 2002.  Three terms of four years each, that&#8217;s twelve years.  It didn&#8217;t matter how many years any existing commissioner had previsouly served.  It was written from then forward no more than three consecutive terms.  </p>
<p>So Sue has one four year term left that starts in November 2010 and expires in 2014. But because of staggering of terms, some commissioners ended up getting two more years I believe.  None got less than 12 total years.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s now reason to believe that term limits, as established in the Broward charter, may be unconstitutional.  Legal challenges elsewhere in the state have been successful and it&#8217;s only a matter of time before it gets challenged in Broward.  Several government lawyers I&#8217;ve spoken to agree.  All that has to happen is for one plaintiff with standing to come forward and file a case and the Broward County term limits go away.</p>
<p>Tallahassee is very much aware of this fact and, as a counter measure, a bill is now floating around in Tallahassee, interestingly enough, that would expand term limits for State Legislators (chutzpah) and establish term limits on all local officials (double chutzpah).  </p>
<p>This bill is a shameless partisan attempt by the majority party to stay in power no matter if voter mood statewide is shifting to the left.  </p>
<p>Make no mistake.  They might as well call it the &#8220;Keep Republicans in Office&#8221; bill.  </p>
<p>When it suited Republican interests, they were the darlings of term limits.  Now that it works against them, they want to undo term limits for themselves while imposing it on others whether those voters want local term limits or not.  It is shameless.</p>
<p>That bill, and any attempt like it, should sink back to the bottom of the pit from which it came.  If local officials are to be given term limits, that&#8217;s a matter for local voters to decide, not some partisan statutory political maneuver.  </p>
<p>Broward, of all places statewise, was able to put term limits on the ballot eight years ago for county officials.  That proves that no Florida locality needs a patronizing state telling them by statute how to handle local affairs.  What the hell ever become of local home rule in the constitution?</p>
<p>The State of Florida has become one of the worst run states in America under the leadership of this group.  Instead of constantly trying to mess with cities and counties, they should do their own job and pay attention to statewide issues.  That should keep them plenty busy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kwitcherbelyaken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kwitcherbelyaken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No more lobbying down?  How can someone be expected to live on only a $92,000 part time job?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No more lobbying down?  How can someone be expected to live on only a $92,000 part time job?</p>
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		<title>By: Ronny G is a good son</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronny G is a good son</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron, just to cover another of your  endless attacks on Steve Geller, you trashed most of the other Commissioners your &quot;mom&quot; serves with. Obviously &quot;mom&quot; will attack the reputation of anyone who can be use to help make her appear to be conflict free and get her re-elected. How many millions did she and her husband make selling plastic decking to the county and broward cities? How many of her immediate family have jobs in county government?

&quot;Mom&#039;s&quot; continuing attempts to cast blame and conflicts away from herself merely magnifies the lack of accomplishments she has to show for her 18 years on the commission. 

How is it, by the way, that commissioners are limited to 12 years of service and after 18 years &quot;mom&quot; can still run for another 4 year term?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron, just to cover another of your  endless attacks on Steve Geller, you trashed most of the other Commissioners your &#8220;mom&#8221; serves with. Obviously &#8220;mom&#8221; will attack the reputation of anyone who can be use to help make her appear to be conflict free and get her re-elected. How many millions did she and her husband make selling plastic decking to the county and broward cities? How many of her immediate family have jobs in county government?</p>
<p>&#8220;Mom&#8217;s&#8221; continuing attempts to cast blame and conflicts away from herself merely magnifies the lack of accomplishments she has to show for her 18 years on the commission. </p>
<p>How is it, by the way, that commissioners are limited to 12 years of service and after 18 years &#8220;mom&#8221; can still run for another 4 year term?</p>
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		<title>By: Blue Man Scoop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blue Man Scoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kristen&#039;s problem could be solved by banning cell phone usage during meetings.  Commissioners have staff.  If it&#039;s important their staff can bring them a note.

Banning spouses probably would be challenged on first amendment grounds</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kristen&#8217;s problem could be solved by banning cell phone usage during meetings.  Commissioners have staff.  If it&#8217;s important their staff can bring them a note.</p>
<p>Banning spouses probably would be challenged on first amendment grounds</p>
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