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		<title>By: cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ms. Hope is doing a great job. As for her being the weakest link, look what super intelligence got the board: swamp land, hubby large contracts, nephew jobs, etc. Why don&#039;t you HATERS have super intelligent Scott Rothstein tutor Ms. Hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ms. Hope is doing a great job. As for her being the weakest link, look what super intelligence got the board: swamp land, hubby large contracts, nephew jobs, etc. Why don&#8217;t you HATERS have super intelligent Scott Rothstein tutor Ms. Hope.</p>
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		<title>By: shortlist</title>
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		<dc:creator>shortlist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what a joke...MS. Dane Ramson lives for these things, gets teachers all pumped them out, then sells them out.  She has been seen with one of the board membrs and several administrators.. 
She does not care about teachers, all she needs is that 108,,000 for field repping and the other 30,000 or so for negotiations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what a joke&#8230;MS. Dane Ramson lives for these things, gets teachers all pumped them out, then sells them out.  She has been seen with one of the board membrs and several administrators..<br />
She does not care about teachers, all she needs is that 108,,000 for field repping and the other 30,000 or so for negotiations!</p>
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		<title>By: Floridan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floridan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 04:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope is by far the weakest member of the School Board and should never be given any more authority (even symbolic) than required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope is by far the weakest member of the School Board and should never be given any more authority (even symbolic) than required.</p>
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		<title>By: buddy nevins</title>
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		<dc:creator>buddy nevins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marty Rubinstein has an opinion on this thread.  Read it at www.watchingbroward.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marty Rubinstein has an opinion on this thread.  Read it at <a href="http://www.watchingbroward.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.watchingbroward.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Broward voter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Broward voter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>have you ever had a conversation with Phyllis Hope?  She&#039;s been on the school board for nearly 4 years and still doesn&#039;t have a clue as to what she&#039;s doing.  Having her there is bad enough, having her as vice chair or chair would have been outright embarrasing!  How can we have a leader who is making decisions for our school children who can&#039;t even speak correctly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>have you ever had a conversation with Phyllis Hope?  She&#8217;s been on the school board for nearly 4 years and still doesn&#8217;t have a clue as to what she&#8217;s doing.  Having her there is bad enough, having her as vice chair or chair would have been outright embarrasing!  How can we have a leader who is making decisions for our school children who can&#8217;t even speak correctly?</p>
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		<title>By: jane doe</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane doe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phyllis Hope is illiterate.  She can hardly write on her own and that is why her secretary has to write for her.  She must have learned awfully fast to get that Lexus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phyllis Hope is illiterate.  She can hardly write on her own and that is why her secretary has to write for her.  She must have learned awfully fast to get that Lexus.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard J Kaplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard J Kaplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 21:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddy, I disagree with you to a point.  This does not reflect on Hope’s abilities or support, but only from a statistical analysis of the election results.

Statistically, Hope went from 25% in the primary to 53%.  Rubinstein essentially stayed the same at 47%.  This means that Rubinstein kept all of his votes, and virtually 100% of the other votes went to Hope.   This would then means that Hope was everyone’s second choice.   I don’t believe this.  Voting patterns don’t work that way.

In normal situations, without other influences, these votes would be split, with a minimum of 20% going to any particular candidate.   More likely 30%+ minimum.  If so, Rubinstein, even at 20%, easily wins.  This did not happen.  In many cases I&#039;ve reviewed it is typically more towards a 40/60% split.

I can’t show another election that this type of result occurs without a significant event occurring.   Particularly a negative event to one of the candidates.  One case in Broward County years ago was the arrest of a city candidate (who had been an interim appointment) the night before the election.  Buddy, you probably covered it.  The candidate otherwise would probably had won, but the final numbers showed a major drop in votes on election day, going to 2nd to last out of 11 candidates.  There was significant press coverage on this even though a city election. Just like this situation.  I know of no other reasonable explanations. 

The only action that occurred in this time period was the firing of Till.  I also recall a lot of press coverage on this firing, and it was the talk of many voters.  Phyllis Hope, in this time period did not have a major positive shift or event in her campaign to explain such a large change towards her.  Therefore I concluded Rubinstein lost the election.

FROM BUDDY: 

I don&#039;t believe that the vote between the primary and the general are always split.  When challengers are running against an incumbent, their supporters go with the remaining challenger.  Obviously these voters didn&#039;t like the incumbent. 

What you should look at is the percentage of votes for the incumbent in the primary.  There is no reason that the percentage would differ in the larger voter pool brought out in a general election. 

Actually, Rubinstein gained a lot of votes between the primary and runoff/general election.

Just not enough.

He had roughly 6,700 in the primary and increased the total to 23,600 – 16,900. 

Hope gained more, about 23,400 votes between the primary and runoff/general. 

There have been lots of campaigns where the leading candidate in the primary stayed with exactly the same percentage in the general election.  I checked out just one—&lt;strong&gt;Lawton Chiles’ &lt;/strong&gt;1970 U. S. Senate campaign against &lt;strong&gt;Ferris Bryant&lt;/strong&gt;. 

Chiles increased his percentage from something like 26 to 66 percent between the primary and runoff.  Bryant went from 33 to 34 percent. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddy, I disagree with you to a point.  This does not reflect on Hope’s abilities or support, but only from a statistical analysis of the election results.</p>
<p>Statistically, Hope went from 25% in the primary to 53%.  Rubinstein essentially stayed the same at 47%.  This means that Rubinstein kept all of his votes, and virtually 100% of the other votes went to Hope.   This would then means that Hope was everyone’s second choice.   I don’t believe this.  Voting patterns don’t work that way.</p>
<p>In normal situations, without other influences, these votes would be split, with a minimum of 20% going to any particular candidate.   More likely 30%+ minimum.  If so, Rubinstein, even at 20%, easily wins.  This did not happen.  In many cases I&#8217;ve reviewed it is typically more towards a 40/60% split.</p>
<p>I can’t show another election that this type of result occurs without a significant event occurring.   Particularly a negative event to one of the candidates.  One case in Broward County years ago was the arrest of a city candidate (who had been an interim appointment) the night before the election.  Buddy, you probably covered it.  The candidate otherwise would probably had won, but the final numbers showed a major drop in votes on election day, going to 2nd to last out of 11 candidates.  There was significant press coverage on this even though a city election. Just like this situation.  I know of no other reasonable explanations. </p>
<p>The only action that occurred in this time period was the firing of Till.  I also recall a lot of press coverage on this firing, and it was the talk of many voters.  Phyllis Hope, in this time period did not have a major positive shift or event in her campaign to explain such a large change towards her.  Therefore I concluded Rubinstein lost the election.</p>
<p>FROM BUDDY: </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe that the vote between the primary and the general are always split.  When challengers are running against an incumbent, their supporters go with the remaining challenger.  Obviously these voters didn&#8217;t like the incumbent. </p>
<p>What you should look at is the percentage of votes for the incumbent in the primary.  There is no reason that the percentage would differ in the larger voter pool brought out in a general election. </p>
<p>Actually, Rubinstein gained a lot of votes between the primary and runoff/general election.</p>
<p>Just not enough.</p>
<p>He had roughly 6,700 in the primary and increased the total to 23,600 – 16,900. </p>
<p>Hope gained more, about 23,400 votes between the primary and runoff/general. </p>
<p>There have been lots of campaigns where the leading candidate in the primary stayed with exactly the same percentage in the general election.  I checked out just one—<strong>Lawton Chiles’ </strong>1970 U. S. Senate campaign against <strong>Ferris Bryant</strong>. </p>
<p>Chiles increased his percentage from something like 26 to 66 percent between the primary and runoff.  Bryant went from 33 to 34 percent.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People get real!  Dinnen was put on the board to be the mouth piece of BTUseless.  You folks seem to forget she was the state union president for many years. 

She wants Hope because she can be pushed around and maybe controlled by Dinnen and BTUseless!

As far as past chairs, remember Carter was pushed out by BTUseless because she would kiss their butts so Gotlieb was pushed in!

We need fine folks like Carter who will not bend to special interest and work for the people who elected them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People get real!  Dinnen was put on the board to be the mouth piece of BTUseless.  You folks seem to forget she was the state union president for many years. </p>
<p>She wants Hope because she can be pushed around and maybe controlled by Dinnen and BTUseless!</p>
<p>As far as past chairs, remember Carter was pushed out by BTUseless because she would kiss their butts so Gotlieb was pushed in!</p>
<p>We need fine folks like Carter who will not bend to special interest and work for the people who elected them!</p>
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		<title>By: Buddy Nevins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Buddy Nevins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Hope versus Rubinstein:

I find it hard to believe that the 27,012 voters who cast their ballots for Hope cared about &lt;strong&gt;Frank Till.&lt;/strong&gt;  Or even knew who he was. 

Some Browardbeat.com readers say they were at the polls during the 2006 election and talked to dozens of voters.  That is anecdotal evidence at best. 

The fact is that no one knows why Rubinstein lost. The only way to find out is to do a statistically accurate survey of the district voters.  

Everything else is speculation. 

There are all kinds of intangibles in voting. 

Browardbeat.com’s pollster &lt;strong&gt;Jim Kane &lt;/strong&gt;has told me many times that only a minority of voters  actually study the issues and know something about the candidates.  This is especially true in a race as low on the ballot as School Board. 

The rest vote for reasons that are often imponderable. 

There are anti-incumbency feelings evident in every race.  

Statistical evidence has show that some voters will chose a woman over a man, especially in a School Board race. 

Some might just like the name Hope over Rubinstein. 

Some blacks may vote for Hope, while Jews might vote for Rubinstein. 

Some might just not like Hope’s appearance.  Or Rubinstein. 

What began this debate was my answer to another person’s comment. The comment above is: “The really reason why Hope was elected was become the business community was really upset with Marty for voting to fire Till.”

My answer is that the “business community” has only one way of influencing races: campaign contributions. I pointed out that if the “business community” was really so upset, why did Rubinstein collect more than three times the money?  

Also, Rubinstein got almost every endorsement including the pro-Till Sun-Sentinel, the unions and most of the business community. 

Rubinstein did exactly what many candidates do in a primary: Hit his high point. 

He got almost the same percentage in the primary as the general 46-47 percent. 

Hope picked up the anti-incumbent vote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Hope versus Rubinstein:</p>
<p>I find it hard to believe that the 27,012 voters who cast their ballots for Hope cared about <strong>Frank Till.</strong>  Or even knew who he was. </p>
<p>Some Browardbeat.com readers say they were at the polls during the 2006 election and talked to dozens of voters.  That is anecdotal evidence at best. </p>
<p>The fact is that no one knows why Rubinstein lost. The only way to find out is to do a statistically accurate survey of the district voters.  </p>
<p>Everything else is speculation. </p>
<p>There are all kinds of intangibles in voting. </p>
<p>Browardbeat.com’s pollster <strong>Jim Kane </strong>has told me many times that only a minority of voters  actually study the issues and know something about the candidates.  This is especially true in a race as low on the ballot as School Board. </p>
<p>The rest vote for reasons that are often imponderable. </p>
<p>There are anti-incumbency feelings evident in every race.  </p>
<p>Statistical evidence has show that some voters will chose a woman over a man, especially in a School Board race. </p>
<p>Some might just like the name Hope over Rubinstein. </p>
<p>Some blacks may vote for Hope, while Jews might vote for Rubinstein. </p>
<p>Some might just not like Hope’s appearance.  Or Rubinstein. </p>
<p>What began this debate was my answer to another person’s comment. The comment above is: “The really reason why Hope was elected was become the business community was really upset with Marty for voting to fire Till.”</p>
<p>My answer is that the “business community” has only one way of influencing races: campaign contributions. I pointed out that if the “business community” was really so upset, why did Rubinstein collect more than three times the money?  </p>
<p>Also, Rubinstein got almost every endorsement including the pro-Till Sun-Sentinel, the unions and most of the business community. </p>
<p>Rubinstein did exactly what many candidates do in a primary: Hit his high point. </p>
<p>He got almost the same percentage in the primary as the general 46-47 percent. </p>
<p>Hope picked up the anti-incumbent vote.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard J Kaplan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard J Kaplan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rubenstein lost cause he fire Till.  Plain and simple.  

If he had voted to retain Till, or had the vote delayed until after the election, he would have won.

Hope won because she was in the right place at the right time.  She didn&#039;t win the election, Rubenstein lost it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rubenstein lost cause he fire Till.  Plain and simple.  </p>
<p>If he had voted to retain Till, or had the vote delayed until after the election, he would have won.</p>
<p>Hope won because she was in the right place at the right time.  She didn&#8217;t win the election, Rubenstein lost it.</p>
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