Comments on: Update: Is Gunzburger Ahead Or Is Poll Biased?

By: Geller Claims He Is Leading Comfortably : BrowardBeat.com

Geller Claims He Is Leading Comfortably : BrowardBeat.com — Fri, 02 Apr 2010 18:30:51 +0000

[...] According to the blogger â€œAll the UF political scientists and graduate students I consulted with â€“ who included some of the leading political scientists in the state â€“ disagree with the conclusions of Gunzburgerâ€™s pollster. [...]

By: Ron Gunzburger

Ron Gunzburger — Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:36:50 +0000

“I guess your talking about all the campaigns you ran as a Republican consultant trying to beat incumbent Democrats. Anything for a feeâ€¦huh.

Hey Steve/David! You know that is not true. I worked as a paid campaign consultant (from 1982 until I retired from that business in 2004) on roughly 130 races. Of those 130, just 1 (0.8%) — in Maryland — was on behalf of a partisan GOP candidate. Most of the campaigns I consulted on were non-partisan municipal races helping to elect environmentalist candidates (like my mother and the late Sue Katz) running against pro-developer candidates (like Steve Geller), and issue campaigns like the Park at Stranahan House bonds vote.

And yes, I was once a Republican, but I’m proof positive it is curable! In reality, my personal politics in recent years have shifted rather far left (much to the left of my mother, and very far to the left of a Blue Dog Dem like Geller). Out of my own pocket I sent myself to New Hampshire and spent Prez primary week 2004 working as a GOTV ward captain for Howard Dean (a peace and health care candidate I’m still tremendously proud to have supported) … I was involved in 2005 with the national draft group which tried to convince progressive Russ Feingold to run for President in 2008 … and made my first donation to the Obama campaign on the very first day he launched his exploratory committee because I thought he was the most viable progressive alternative to the Clintons (my big disappointment with President Obama is simply that he is proving to be far too centrist for my tastes).

Finally, for those of you who haven’t visited lately, be sure to check out my mother’s brand new, multimedia campaign site:
http://www.Sue2010.com

By: Dear Hollywood Voter

Dear Hollywood Voter — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 01:03:06 +0000

You are such an obvious plant for the Gunzburger campaign. You are just being used to try to defend a shameful attempt by your campaign to mislead the voters about your poll results. What other deceptions will you employ against the voters just to keep your government job?

and to Truthiness (Ron G.)
who posted above “Keep in mind who is running her campaign. He has rather effectively used polls and really sharpened attacks to win lots of campaigns in the past.”

I guess your talking about all the campaigns you ran as a Republican consultant trying to beat incumbent Democrats. Anything for a fee…huh.

By: Tommy the Fry Cook

Tommy the Fry Cook — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:06:02 +0000

Buddy, thank you for following up and exposing the flaws in the polling.

By: Right Wing Reactionary

Right Wing Reactionary — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 13:10:30 +0000

The poll should be a single question poll. Put this one out there and we’ll get a real picture.

Concerning the upcoming County Commission race this August, who would you support for election?

Choose One:

A. – Steven Geller, the fat, overblown, former State Senator and casino lobbyist?

B. – Suzanne Gunzburger, the should have been term limited County Commissioner who’s overstayed her welcome by at least eight years?

C. – Never heard of either of them so who the hell cares?

D. – They’re both greasy overindulgent politicians who spend too way much taxpayer money, may they both rot in hell.

By: Hollywood Voter

Hollywood Voter — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:39:52 +0000

I got called twice, first by what I now can tell by the dates was Gunzburger’s poll, and then by what I presume was Geller’s poll. They were almost identical. And both were pretty even-handed. I can tell lots of Geller supporters are trying to bad-mouth these results but both questions asked all the tough questions about both. I was asked the lobbyist questions, the developer and environmentalist questions, the autism and arts and tax questions, Gunzburger’s plastic bus bench deal and about her kids’ jobs, women’s rights, and Geller’s ponzi connection, and age. Am I missing something, but I think both polls were very fair. I could easily tell both polls were being done by the two campaigns, but both polls were well enough done that I couldn’t tell which one was Sue’s poll and which one was Steve’s poll until I saw the dates of her poll in this story. I don’t know what Geller’s poll will show, but as someone who got both calls, they both seemed pretty much the identical and fair. If I couldn’t tell which poll was paid for by which campaign, and I’m someone who follows politics, I think it is a sign both polls were done well.

As for the naysayers above, I think it is all just Geller campaign spin to explain why he is now losing a race he thought he would easily win. There’s a word for it: hubris.

By: No truth in polling

No truth in polling — Thu, 18 Mar 2010 01:12:38 +0000

I actually got called to take a poll on this race due to the fact that I am a super voter. I will tell you that the questions asked were slanted and biased.

By: Resident

Resident — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 23:54:13 +0000

When I see “Prefer a generic â€œincumbent Commissionerâ€ with a pro-ethics, proenvironment, fiscally responsible record to a â€œchallenger who will bring
change,” I see push poll. Who says any of this is true. It assumes those positions.

Again, “Once voters become fully informed about both candidates.” Who is to say what is “fully informed.” Push Poll.

“. . . because Steve Gellerâ€™s negative record is so much more potent and troubling for voters than any of his positive achievements.” Push Poll.

“Gellerâ€™s shady background problems overwhelm his well-testing positive record on autism, child safety, and insurance reform.” Shady? Push Poll.

Not one mention of any of Gunzberger’s negative attacks, or that of her son’s. Push Poll.

Don’t thank me Geller, it doesn’t mean I support you either. It’s just stating the truth.

By: Truthiness

Truthiness — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:27:00 +0000

People who call something a “push poll” apparently have no idea what a push poll is. Anything like this which generates results is not a push poll. A “push poll” is a persuasion call masquerading as a poll. This seems to be a real poll by a real pollster. As for what it reads on the ballot on election day, the people who show up to vote have had months to hear the message from both sides before they vote so this poll would appear to be valid, depending on was asked about each candidate and how it was worded. I’m inclined to believe this is legit. Keep in mind who is running her campaign. He has rather effectively used polls and really sharpened attacks to win lots of campaigns in the past. If Geller is saying he doubts these numbers, then he should release the full numbers of the poll he conducted just last week.

By: Resident

Resident — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:53:09 +0000

It’s a push poll.

Too bad they can’t ask these questions when voters vote. All they ask is who you want to vote for. You can’t know what will be put out, let alone who might see it or care about it.

I’m not even involved in this race, and really don’t care who wins. Probably won’t make a difference anyhow. So I wouldn’t put much into this poll.