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		<title>By: Blue Man Scoop</title>
		<link>http://www.browardbeat.com/commission-ignores-public-with-courthouse-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-35036</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Man Scoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a news report is different then an editorial opinion piece.  Maybe if you had a modicum of experience of life in media, then you would know the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>a news report is different then an editorial opinion piece.  Maybe if you had a modicum of experience of life in media, then you would know the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Charley Varrick</title>
		<link>http://www.browardbeat.com/commission-ignores-public-with-courthouse-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-35035</link>
		<dc:creator>Charley Varrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddy, 

In the spending six list you missed out the biggest spender of them all. That flip flopping , gourmet and man about town , Ken Keechl. Speak about fiddling while Rome burns. OK the courthouse is a dump but with millions of Broward residents struggling in this economy , now is not the time to be spending public money ..wasn&#039;t that the platform that Keechl stood on ? Spending other peopl&#039;e money certainly seems to be his forte.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddy, </p>
<p>In the spending six list you missed out the biggest spender of them all. That flip flopping , gourmet and man about town , Ken Keechl. Speak about fiddling while Rome burns. OK the courthouse is a dump but with millions of Broward residents struggling in this economy , now is not the time to be spending public money ..wasn&#8217;t that the platform that Keechl stood on ? Spending other peopl&#8217;e money certainly seems to be his forte.</p>
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		<title>By: Right Wing Reactionary</title>
		<link>http://www.browardbeat.com/commission-ignores-public-with-courthouse-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-34955</link>
		<dc:creator>Right Wing Reactionary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Enough&quot; I agree with you 100%.  But the stuff of Blogs such as Buddy&#039;s is as valid as any other opinion.  But that&#039;s all it is.

Nevins, Norman, Mayo all agree on their opposition and criticism of the courthouse decision.  But not one of them has a modicum of experience of life on the other side.  Remember this: None of them are real newspaper reporters.  A real reporter would tell us who, what, when, where and why.  What we have instead are bloggers.  Opinionated bloggers at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Enough&#8221; I agree with you 100%.  But the stuff of Blogs such as Buddy&#8217;s is as valid as any other opinion.  But that&#8217;s all it is.</p>
<p>Nevins, Norman, Mayo all agree on their opposition and criticism of the courthouse decision.  But not one of them has a modicum of experience of life on the other side.  Remember this: None of them are real newspaper reporters.  A real reporter would tell us who, what, when, where and why.  What we have instead are bloggers.  Opinionated bloggers at that.</p>
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		<title>By: shekfu</title>
		<link>http://www.browardbeat.com/commission-ignores-public-with-courthouse-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-34935</link>
		<dc:creator>shekfu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bravo &quot;enough already&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bravo &#8220;enough already&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Enough Already</title>
		<link>http://www.browardbeat.com/commission-ignores-public-with-courthouse-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-34919</link>
		<dc:creator>Enough Already</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so sick and tired of how this community and country have become, bickering, sniveling, reds and blues, this team and that, this angle and that angle.  We have lost our sense of &quot;us&quot; of community and being one nation.    

Broward County has needed a new courthouse for decades.  What we have now is an overcrowded, smelly, rat infested dump that is crumbling.

There is no better time than right now to construct, it has to be done anyway, it will put people to work, there may be some federal money to do it. 

Stop the bullshit and let&#039;s get on with it already.  Enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so sick and tired of how this community and country have become, bickering, sniveling, reds and blues, this team and that, this angle and that angle.  We have lost our sense of &#8220;us&#8221; of community and being one nation.    </p>
<p>Broward County has needed a new courthouse for decades.  What we have now is an overcrowded, smelly, rat infested dump that is crumbling.</p>
<p>There is no better time than right now to construct, it has to be done anyway, it will put people to work, there may be some federal money to do it. </p>
<p>Stop the bullshit and let&#8217;s get on with it already.  Enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Floridan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Floridan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 13:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;If a new courthouse could be paid with federal money and without raising taxes, I am for it.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

Something for nothing . . . the cornerstone of democracy.

&quot;&lt;i&gt;I donâ€™t believe this is the time to raise taxes for a courthouse when social services and other functions of government are being cut.&lt;/i&gt;&quot;

I must have missed your posts opposing cuts in social services and other government functions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>If a new courthouse could be paid with federal money and without raising taxes, I am for it.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>Something for nothing . . . the cornerstone of democracy.</p>
<p>&#8220;<i>I donâ€™t believe this is the time to raise taxes for a courthouse when social services and other functions of government are being cut.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>I must have missed your posts opposing cuts in social services and other government functions.</p>
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		<title>By: 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 01:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would Mr. Gellin want a new courthouse if the criminal wing was shifted to the civil wing, and the civil wing was shifted to the criminal wing?

The criminal bar would be screaming for a new courthouse if they had to be in the civil building.

If the criminal bar had to practice in the civil wing, they would allege unfairness that the civil lawyers and judges are in a palace.

Would the P.D.&#039;s office cry foul if they were in the old building and the S.A. office was where they were?

If the shoe was on the other foot, what would the criminal bar say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would Mr. Gellin want a new courthouse if the criminal wing was shifted to the civil wing, and the civil wing was shifted to the criminal wing?</p>
<p>The criminal bar would be screaming for a new courthouse if they had to be in the civil building.</p>
<p>If the criminal bar had to practice in the civil wing, they would allege unfairness that the civil lawyers and judges are in a palace.</p>
<p>Would the P.D.&#8217;s office cry foul if they were in the old building and the S.A. office was where they were?</p>
<p>If the shoe was on the other foot, what would the criminal bar say?</p>
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		<title>By: Happy about the vote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Happy about the vote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article suggests that Gelin speaks for all of his readers.  He doesn&#039;t.  I read his blog, and I&#039;m in favor of a new courthouse.  The existing facility is a dump and in dire need of replacement.  

Many of the JAAblog hits are from courthouse employees and lawyers.  I would be surprised if all, or even most, of them are against a new courthouse.  

Gelin and the criminal lawyers are not as concerned with the condition of the courthouse since the criminal wing is in the newest addition to the courthouse and is in far superior condition to the older parts (i.e., civil division) of the courthouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article suggests that Gelin speaks for all of his readers.  He doesn&#8217;t.  I read his blog, and I&#8217;m in favor of a new courthouse.  The existing facility is a dump and in dire need of replacement.  </p>
<p>Many of the JAAblog hits are from courthouse employees and lawyers.  I would be surprised if all, or even most, of them are against a new courthouse.  </p>
<p>Gelin and the criminal lawyers are not as concerned with the condition of the courthouse since the criminal wing is in the newest addition to the courthouse and is in far superior condition to the older parts (i.e., civil division) of the courthouse.</p>
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		<title>By: breaking it down</title>
		<link>http://www.browardbeat.com/commission-ignores-public-with-courthouse-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-34843</link>
		<dc:creator>breaking it down</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets assume JAAB readers vote. Traditionally lawyers in general give $ they dont vote. Most of the readers who work in the old side of the courthouse all would agree the County Commission did a good thing. I think its a very small amount of the Jaab readership outside of Gelin and Help Me Howard that would oppose a new Courthouse. 

I believe that if a good campaign was run to explain the dire straits the building is in that voters would eventually vote for it. If the voters were aware that there could be serious liability for the pending mold claims that could be in the millions they would vote for the CH. If the Voters were educated that the continued use of band aids to cover up the serious structural problems will only cost more money in later years they very well could have voted for it. I think it was too bad the Commissioners were lazy and didnt give the people a fair chance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets assume JAAB readers vote. Traditionally lawyers in general give $ they dont vote. Most of the readers who work in the old side of the courthouse all would agree the County Commission did a good thing. I think its a very small amount of the Jaab readership outside of Gelin and Help Me Howard that would oppose a new Courthouse. </p>
<p>I believe that if a good campaign was run to explain the dire straits the building is in that voters would eventually vote for it. If the voters were aware that there could be serious liability for the pending mold claims that could be in the millions they would vote for the CH. If the Voters were educated that the continued use of band aids to cover up the serious structural problems will only cost more money in later years they very well could have voted for it. I think it was too bad the Commissioners were lazy and didnt give the people a fair chance</p>
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		<title>By: New Money</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one commissioner who has been in the middle of everything wrong at the county commission and her name is Ilene Lieberman.
Read The New Times stories. 
Her vote on the courthouse is the same as other self-serving votes she has made in the past 15 years. She figured out a way to make even more money for her votes by becoming a lobbyist the minute she took office.
Ilene Lieberman=influence peddling. 
How do you think Lieberman&#039;s husband got his Sunrise City Attorney&#039;s job? 
It is curious she lived in a small house in Lauderhill when she was elected and now lives in a mansion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one commissioner who has been in the middle of everything wrong at the county commission and her name is Ilene Lieberman.<br />
Read The New Times stories.<br />
Her vote on the courthouse is the same as other self-serving votes she has made in the past 15 years. She figured out a way to make even more money for her votes by becoming a lobbyist the minute she took office.<br />
Ilene Lieberman=influence peddling.<br />
How do you think Lieberman&#8217;s husband got his Sunrise City Attorney&#8217;s job?<br />
It is curious she lived in a small house in Lauderhill when she was elected and now lives in a mansion.</p>
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